Coyote Cinema: On Stranger Tides

[cyrano]

In haiku form.

My mouth hangs agape
Holy God it did not suck
Yay Ian McShane

(Better than 2 and 3. I had planned to not even bother with this one, but am glad I did.)

EDIT: This should come as no great shock, but there is now at least one mild spoiler in comments. Be Ye Warned!

Comments

[tersa.livejournal.com]

Wow, I'm surprised. Television Without Pity was ripping it to shreds over the weekend as did the Mercury review I skimmed.

[cyranocyrano.livejournal.com]

I found it to be amusing, fast moving summer popcorn fare. There were bits that were annoying, there were plot holes, but there was ship porn and (for the most part) things kept moving.

[tersa.livejournal.com]

Awesome.

Also, one of the DA voice actors (Greg Ellis, who I believe plays Norrington's right hand man, Cullen in DA & DA2 and Awakening!Anders) has an expanded role this go around, reportedly. :)

[cyranocyrano.livejournal.com]

....Does not ring a bell.
Might be so, however. (:

[seachanges.livejournal.com]

He was Barbossa's First Officer, the one that tries to claim the fountain for the English during the final confrontation. So not a huge role, but considerably bigger than what he'd had in the previous films.

Also, glad you enjoyed the film. I thought it was silly good fun, nothing exceptional, but still better than 2 and 3. Plus, Ian McShane, and a cameo by Judi Dench.

[cyranocyrano.livejournal.com]

I squeaked at the cameo, and was glad I'd heard nothing about it.

[tersa.livejournal.com]

....and now I have. :)

[cyranocyrano.livejournal.com]

...Some mornings, I'm not very smart.

[seachanges.livejournal.com]

Oops. Sorry, that was my bad.

[seachanges.livejournal.com]

He plays Lt. Commander Groves, and the role is only expanded in the sense that he has a whopping four or five lines as opposed to the one he got in the original POTC. *g* But he is on camera a good bit, and even gets to take his powdered wig off toward the end of the film.

And yes, I was watching for him; I liked him as Groves even before I started playing Dragon Age. I just wish they could have found a way to bring Norrignton back as well. SIGH.

[tersa.livejournal.com]

I read somewhere that the reason they had to re-cast Anders's VA was because Ellis didn't have the time to record such a large part. I've decided, without any other facts, that it was PotC that caused it. :)

One True Cullen!

[seachanges.livejournal.com]

I read somewhere that the reason they had to re-cast Anders's VA was because Ellis didn't have the time to record such a large part.

That would make sense. Groves is not a huge role in terms of speaking, but as Barbossa's first officer, he's on camera a lot, even if it's mostly just standing around looking stern.

One True Cullen!

LOL! Indeed. *g* Someone wrote a Twilight/DA spoof with him called TwiBlight. I have not had the courage to read it.

I also have my suspicions that the DA writers originally intended him to be something of an Edward Cullen spoof. Somewhere I read an interview with David Gaider where he admitted to being baffled by Cullen's popularity as he'd intended him to come off as creepy and stalker-ish. I honestly think the main reason he seems more adorably awkward and sweet than skeevy during the mage origin story is Ellis' voice acting.

[tersa.livejournal.com]

Someone wrote a Twilight/DA spoof with him called TwiBlight. I have not had the courage to read it.

Oh, jeez. *facepalm*

Somewhere I read an interview with David Gaider where he admitted to being baffled by Cullen's popularity as he'd intended him to come off as creepy and stalker-ish. I honestly think the main reason he seems more adorably awkward and sweet than skeevy during the mage origin story is Ellis' voice acting.

LOL. Could very well be--I definitely didn't think of him as creepy and stalker-ish. Maybe they thought players would be embracing their viewpoint on mages and...most players simply didn't.

If they really wanted him not to be popular, they would've made him Meredith's enthusiastic yes man in DA2 instead of the voice of reason. (ETA: Crap. Now I'm spoiling C--. Sorry!)

[seachanges.livejournal.com]

Maybe they thought players would be embracing their viewpoint on mages and...most players simply didn't.

That, and I think they completely overlooked how many players would respond to the whole 'forbidden love' angle with him. Then, when you run into him later during the Broken Circle quest, he's all covered in sexy wounds all tortured and angsty, which is like catnip to a certain segment of the population. *vbg*

Also, we are totally hijacking Cyrano's POTC thread with our Dragon Age talk. If you like, I can go make a DA discussion post over on the fandom journal so we can keep going. *vbg*

[tersa.livejournal.com]

I think I'm spent on this topic. :)

[seachanges.livejournal.com]

Heh. Fair enough. *g*