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[cyrano]

It sounds like, according to a Pentagon report issued today, we've decided that we are not bound by the international treaties we've signed that say we promise not to torture people.

Which means more jobs in America, as we won't have to outsource it to Syria any more.

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[batratblue.livejournal.com]

Link to the report, or the article mentioning it, please.

[cyranocyrano.livejournal.com]

Alas, when I said 'sounds like' I meant it. It was a thirty second blurb on a mainstream non-internet news source (CNN or MSNBC), but it looks like Miss Friday linked to an article from news bbc and I'm going to go read it now.

[cyranocyrano.livejournal.com]

Okay, looks like this is actually old news. The report has apparently been kicking around for over a year now.

[miss-friday.livejournal.com]

Actually, the story revolves around a non-final draft of a report. And there is an implication the Wall Street Journal, who broke the story, did not review the full report.

Here's the BBC version: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3783869.stm

[cyranocyrano.livejournal.com]

You're so cool.

[batratblue.livejournal.com]

Oh, that old thing. I'd heard something about the WSJ commenting on this last year. What I haven't heard is anything from any sources I trust. And yes, that's a statement about both the BBC and the WSJ.

I'm beginning to think more and more that I'm going to have to write up the details of what I know about modern U.S. interrogations practice, which I know just enough about to have uneasy nights, and to have sincere doubts about our better interrogators being anywhere near hamhanded idiocy like what went on in Abu Ghraib. The people I'm talking about would want those soldiers tortured...Not for information, but as punishment...For fucking with their subjects, which fucking makes the more subtle, and FAR more effective methods a lot less effective and a lot more time consuming. Those methods rely on the subjects being relaxed and used to boring, doldrum prison routines. Every time you yank someone out of bed at 4AM and screw with their heads, you screw things up for the real professionals.