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And maybe it's because I'm a patriarch in a patriarchal society, but I don't get the "Nobody But Clinton" schism in the Democratic Party. The last time we had a primary, Howard Dean failed to win. And, despite shoddy treatment from the party elite, a hack job from the media, and a lack of votes cast for Dean, I did not see a Deaniacs4Bush.com website nor a demand to assuage the rifts and gaping chasms in the party base. In fact, in *most* of the presidential primaries we have at least one candidate who doesn't win. It's an unfortunate side effect of having a candidate who wins. The winner is rarely my first choice, and often it's somebody that I can barely stomach. But that doesn't mean that I decide to throw my support to a candidate whose views are even further from my own.

Date: 2008-08-29 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-friday.livejournal.com
There are a lot of people in this world that are much less mature than you or I.

Also I suspect a cult of personality might be in action here.

Thirdly, until Obama came along, the Clintons were the media darlings of the Democratic Party. Falling from grace is hard.

Date: 2008-08-30 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyranocyrano.livejournal.com
Well yes, but Dean certainly had a cult of personality.

I don't know.

Date: 2008-08-29 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-m-moses.livejournal.com
Sadly, I think a lot of those people are women who are all pissy that the woman didn't win the dem nomination. And gee, look, McCain put a woman on his ticket.

FWIW, I've now gotten two "Democrats for Bush" bumper stickers stuck onto my car over the "George W. Bush, Weapon of Mass Destruction" sticker, so it's not a completely new phenomenon.

Date: 2008-08-30 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyranocyrano.livejournal.com
I'd figured that the people who printed up and shared the 'Democrats for Bush' stickers were not, in fact, dues paying members of the Democratic Party. Being pressganged into a bumper sticker is different than the folks at some of these websites who are actual Democrats/liberals that would rather see McCain in the White House because.... he didn't beat Clinton.

Date: 2008-08-29 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yami-mcmoots.livejournal.com
I can definitely understand feeling angry and betrayed that a qualified female candidate was passed over... but at this point, my default assumption is that anyone planning to vote for McCain who is otherwise a Democrat in both their policy positions and tribal identification, who can't give a coherent issues-oriented explanation for throwing their vote to the other side this time, is a racist. Not that they'd ever admit it.

Date: 2008-08-30 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyranocyrano.livejournal.com
I can understand the angry, because I used to get angry every time a qualified progressive candidate was passed over in favor of yet another lukewarm corporate friendly centrist Democrat. I guess I just grew accustomed to it.

it is what she wanted

Date: 2008-08-31 08:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 7leaguebootdisk.livejournal.com
By dragging it out so long, and being so clearlly willing to do anything, it's not suprising Clinton got so many bitter followers.

But I very much doubt enough of them will to even be measurable.

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