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Date: 2009-06-03 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denyse.livejournal.com
They came mostly from the Guangdong province (like my grandpa) or from the Fujian or Chiuchow/Teochew regions.
The main motivator was poverty, really. There are tons of books on this.
Which revolution do you mean? Hong Kong is right by the Guangdong province, so they all speak cantonese there and have all along. Folks went to Hong Kong for money.

And are you referring to the anti-immigration acts specifically targeted against the chinese?

The no-wimmin act was to keep the chinese from establishing a permanent population in the area. But there were some. Just very few compared to the men. Hence the invention of things like chop suey.

Date: 2009-06-03 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyranocyrano.livejournal.com
I was thinking of Mao's cultural revolution.
Do you have recommendations on books? I want a trip to the library to see what their local history section is like anyway.
And I was thinking of the anti-immigration acts--I figure there's a lot of writing about them as well. One author mentioned that an underlying push of the laws restricting jobs and residence was to get somebody desperate enough to work on the railroad. I would imagine they were more strictly enforced inland, but I have no evidence to back it up.

Date: 2009-06-03 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denyse.livejournal.com
Dood - that's way later than your time frame, and the whole region are cantonese speakers and Hong Kong was packed with cantonese speaking people way (like way way WAY) before the cultural revolution and I don't think many people were able to leave china at that point, much less to go to a capitalist haven like Hong Kong. Actually, hong kong has always been cantonese speaking - because it's next to Guangdong, and all the people there speak cantonese.
So no.

Can't think of many books right off hand about the specifics of the American chinese experience, but there are museums and stuff dedicated to that in SF who probably have great resources.

Date: 2009-06-03 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyranocyrano.livejournal.com
I'm sure there are. I will not be lacking in resources, so long as I am not lacking in energy and dedication. (:

Date: 2009-06-03 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denyse.livejournal.com
Try this for starters.
http://online.sfsu.edu/~ericmar/catimeline.html

The Chinese Exclusion 1882 act is the most famous. Though you're referring to the 1870 excluding chinese wimmin thing above.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act


Yes, my marriage would not have been legal until 1948. Whee!

Date: 2009-06-04 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyranocyrano.livejournal.com
I bookmarked the CATimeline page earlier this week. Alas, I can't get itp.berkeley.edu to load, but I can still use the timeline. And I can't believe I hadn't been to Wikipedia yet.

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