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I'd forgotten how twigged I was by the UberMensch* undertones in The Incredibles.
The rest of the film is still a lot of fun, and it gave my PCGF work; it's just the one thing.

*Society is a burden to the UberMench, forcing him to sacrifice his excellence and take on the mediocrity of the herd. If only the world would let him be himself, existing outside the rules of society, everyone would benefit.

EDIT: A discussion with a friend indicates that I need to expound on my topic. It is not that I think the characters are UberMenschen who need to be dragged down to the level of everybody else. It's that I think the director feels that if only society would recognize the greatness of certain people who were born great then they could feel free to be full of greatness. Or something. I mean, at the end of the movie you have the track competition where our newly heroic hero tells his son how to be less exceptional than he really is, in order to fit in. Which, as far as I can tell, was directly against the point the director was trying to make. Jesus fuck, it's one in the morning and I'm so far behind schedule and so stupid tired that you should quit listening.
But I still think it'd be funny if Google were invited to take part in College Bowl.

Date: 2009-11-05 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senatorhatty.livejournal.com
Yes but...

Where do you draw the line when determining what is fair? If there are two dudes on a track team and one of them is naturally faster than the other (so he works less hard in practice), do you say that the naturally faster guy is taking victory away from the other dude? Do you say that about a kid who has the highest GPA in his class without studying, when the second-place kid had to study for hours a night to get her 3.99 GPA?

By the way, apparently my old High School DID think that natural talent, and/or focus was somehow detracting from the achievement of the less-intelligent and/or focused. When my little brother was in school, they decided to stop recognizing students on the basis of highest GPA. The Valedictorian, Salutatorian, &c. had to APPLY for the, uh, position. It really pissed my family off, even though I think my little bro ended up Salutatorian anyway.

That said, it's kind of stupid for Dash to have been on the track team at all except insofar as it might have helped the little freak make some friends.

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