An Infinite Number of Monkeys

They are dangerous because Jesus says they are. This is all we need to know. Plus, the Crusades are an invention of that evil hollywood jew Ridley Scott and never really happened. And science is only bad if it doesn't have a profit base.

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But why would wingnuts have Mein Kampf and Nietzsche in the 'bad' list? Their own description of "Beyond Good and Evil" seems like a page out of their playbook:

Here Nietzsche argued that men are driven by an amoral “Will to Power,” and that superior men will sweep aside religiously inspired moral rules, which he deemed as artificial as any other moral rules, to craft whatever rules would help them dominate the world around them. “Life itself is essentially appropriation, injury, overpowering of the strange and weaker, suppression, severity, imposition of one’s own forms, incorporation and, at the least and mildest, exploitation,” he wrote.

Does that hit too close to home or something? Are they truly that deluded?

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Well no, see, the threat here is that they're in a position to MAKE the religiously inspired rules, and anybody who says those rules are not overwhelmingly important is harmful.

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Clearly you believe that science and religion are separate. Tut. Science is either the creation of God, as in the case of the sort that creates DVD players and DDT, or it is this generation's version of the Golden Calf, raised up to supplant God, as in the case of Asheron's Call. Anything that tracks its muddy feet over carpet laid by the almighty is not Science but Sacrilege.

Origin of the Species: Suggested a possible origin that did not equate to "God & Six Days". Clearly immoral for that very reason. You can have all that science stuff, if you wish, as long as you don't research or theorize into areas that are already covered by Truth.

Introduction to Psychoanalysis: Suggests several unwholesome things; human nature is cause/effect (trauma/condition); embracement of sin is not the fault of the embracer, but of hir trauma; that rejection of those sins may be accomplished without God. Further, this work of Darkness suggests that it is no longer adequate to say, "that's just how I am" or "God made me like this," but rather that it is in our control to be better than we are naturally, which implies a responsibility for our actions that is antithetical to the conservative credo.

Coming of Age in Samoa: Not familiar with the beastly thing. Sorry, you're on your own to figure this one out.

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I think I need to read these books now... I have to admit I am very unread when it comes to the dangerous classics.

Everyone around me in Starbucks looked at me when I laughed rather loudly at the Kinsey Report being on there. Sex is always evil..unless you are Tamar who was lauded as being smart to trick Judah into impregnating her when he thought she was a prostitute and not his daughter-in-law.

We know that Freud was very dangerous because he advocated this concept that there was an unconscous and that it may have something to do with why we behave in ways that are counter to what we would like to. In reality we know that the unconscous must be SATAN right?

The Feminist Mystique, hum... shouldn't Ann Coulter be married and raising her kids at home? That is what all good Christian women do right?

Reading about Coming of Age in Somoa, it was really a blow to the conservative movement. It was posible to have sex and multiple partners without guilt. I don't know that her science could stand an examination by anyone out of high school, but I don't think that is the conservative's issue. I think they care more about the free sex, pro-masterbation, and pro-homosexuality stance from the book.

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embracement of sin is not the fault of the embracer, but of hir trauma

Not to rock the boat or anything, but I personally think this is just a sorry excuse for not taking responsability for ones actions, and it sickens my that the psychological community embraces it so much.

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Absolutely. The psychological community has simply traded any words referring to higher power for words relating to trauma/training. Feh! My feeling has always been that I am capable (sometimes easily, sometimes with effort, sometimes with enormous difficulty) of controlling what my actions will be.

Which leaves me feeling that everyone else can, as well.

"Everyone is broken, stupid, or just like me."

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I wonder what would happen if I bought all these books at one time from borders. I wonder if that would go in my already-created FBI file...

First being a registered member of "the largest worldwide organized militia" otherwise known as the SCA and I seriously doubt we'll be able to take over ANYTHING with our duct-tape wrapped, foam padded pokey-sticks. and now... oooh, a thinking american... UH-OH politicians in trouble, must.... assassinate...

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I was one of those "Psych majors" in school... but I dropped out very soon after I started. I got sick and tired of hearing about how much someone WASN'T at fault. "Blame the parents" "Blame society" "It takes a village to raise a child" ... ...

Listen either they are psychopathic and really DO NOT know right from wrong, in which case they should be put in an institution...
or... *GASP*
They are just lazy punks who want to be bad for the sake of being cool or only do bad because they are too lazy to do good... or for many other stupid reasons that they use because they feel they can get away with not taking responsibility... and should be put in Jail.

either way, they are off the streets. but no... it is society's fault... we can't put them away, they are not responsible... and the innocent suffer... children get beaten because "my father beat me, its not my fault I beat my child..." ... DUDE you KNOW how bad you felt when you got your ass beat...

hmmm. I am ranting... I'll go away now.

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"I am ranting... I'll go away now."

No, no. Rant, and see what comes with that.

[leans forward, lacing fingers together]

What do you feel when you rant? And why should you go away if your rant?

[looks wise] Zee muzzer. Vee often look to zee muzzer in zees cases.

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*laughs*

I suppose I just listen to people talk about "statistics" and I look back on my own very "statistical" life and wanna vomit. People look for excuses to be mean, rude or just plain nasty. I am not nasty, I am bluntly honest at times, but only when people need to hear what it is that I am saying. (in which cases its also most likely they don't want to hear what I am saying)

I have all the excuses in the world. I was raped at 12, pregnant at 16, brought abusive men into my life... I was shunned in school, my mother had a habit of being... slightly bi-polar...

of all these things, I could pick two and have a perfectly "Psychological" excuse for being a nasty crack-whore living in a trailer home with 6 kids and an abusive alcoholic husband. I could rob liqueur stores and purse snatch, I could even thieve from friends and abuse my kids, and I would "not be to blame"

Makes me sick. of COURSE I would be to blame. there is no one to blame but myself. what could I blame?
Rape? it happened 16 years ago and if I held on to that - it would be MY choice to do so (ergo, my fault).
Pregnancy? It was my (our) fault in the beginning, I did the right thing and good things came from it. Again holding on to it I would be my own victimizer. (my fault once again)
Abusive men? hmmm. my fault again. As I once heard a comedian say "In real life dangerous men are the ones you are leaning out of your trailer home yelling 'take his ass away officer!'" I was young and stupid and I learned my lesson and moved on. If i were still choosing them It would still be, you guessed it - My fault.
Shunned in school? This one drives me up the wall... those Columbine kids used this excuse to shoot up half the school and go nuts before offing themselves. Yeah okay I wasn't popular, it wasn't the end of the world then and it's DEFINITELY not the end of the world now. if it was... oooh MY FAULT! :D
bi-polar mother? eh, everyone have a crazy relative, mine just happens to be my mother. I learned to live with it and move on in life. If I hadn't... hey kiddies... MY FAULT...

my psychologist told me once, when I was in a seriously deep depression, that it wasn't my fault for being depressed. even back then I looked at him and asked, "If it's not my fault, who's is it? I control my feelings, no one else can do that. I control my actions, no one can do that either. Who is it, exactly then, that IS at fault for my own depression?" granted it turned out to be something that wasn't in my control, being brain chemistry and all that jazz, but still even in an off-side sort of way, it was MY brain chemistry, and in-turn, MY FAULT.

[looks dim] hmmmz. peerhapse ziz iz a kaze ov zee envy ov zee peeniz, ja? ven von haz zee peeniz envy, von kould peerhapse becomes veery angryz. :D

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"ven von haz zee peeniz envy, von kould peerhaps becomes veery angryz."

Ah. Yes, I see now. I notice that you continually accept blame for all the things in your life, things that are clearly not your fault, but the fault of what was done to you. This seems to be almost a self-crucifixion ... crucifixu are potent phallic symbols, and the Christ was often symbolized by a fish, another phallic symbol. All that rage, centered about such potent phallic symbols --

Yes, yes, clearly penis envy. Well diagnosed. You are hereby freed of any guilt -- although not consequence -- for your actions. That being the case, it wouldn't hurt you in the least to pay a little visit to some people I have on this list, and just, let's say, act out your angers.

I'd appreciate it awfully....

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That being the case, it wouldn't hurt you in the least to pay a little visit to some people I have on this list, and just, let's say, act out your angers.

Hold on... I have a list of my own I have to act out my angers on... no... where did I put it -.-

I Like you :D
/me Keeps you.

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"I Like you"

I'm very pleased. I like you, too, both ranting and playing ... but that just reflects my early trauma and conditioning.

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hmmm.
*smirks*

I wonder what would happen if...
*grins evilly*
*rings a bell*
*waits*

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devilsaprentice.livejournal.com

my father can't come to the keyboard right now, he is currently swimming in a pool of his own saliva.

--Othello.

(now, does the post comment button give me a pellet, or a shock? I always forget...)

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devilsaprentice.livejournal.com

whee! pellets!

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your-liquid-sky.livejournal.com

Er. Been listening to Queensryche, have we?

What I want to know is how many of these scholars and leaders read each of these books they voted on.

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rofl!!

I hope it was tastey :)

I like the colorful pellets... the round ones with the "S" on the top. :D

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Then again... sometimes I like the shock too :O

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I have problems remembering my EST, but I understand that's pretty much the norm.

Mmm, fried frontal lobe. Good times, good times.

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tnalpgge.livejournal.com

Reminds me that I have a cousin named Tamar who may be college age. I hope she's a smart cookie. I hope she doesn't plan to shag her way to the top. (I haven't seen her in years.)

Oh, and about Ann Coulter: don't you know that well-behaved women rarely make history? :-)

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miss-friday.livejournal.com

I find it amusing that each book is linked to Amazon. Sends me the message: "We think these pages are destroying Western Civilization, but by all means buy and read them."

Other than that, the whole self-righteous concept and the predictable, and equally self-righteous, reaction to it bore the snot out of me. And snot is such a terrible thing to waste.

I'd make a horrible activist/Crusader.

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Actually I don't own any Queensryche. I just know about that album. (: And if they had read them, they'd have been corrupted and turned into homosexual volvo driving liberal communists.

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